Science or belief

Posted by Andrew Wadge on February 27th 2008 in Supporting consumer choice

Last night’s Horizon programme on BBC2 raised some very interesting points about some of the health claims made by the food industry. Friendly bacteria, so-called superfoods, and the organics industry all came under the spotlight. It was good to see the programme focusing on the science behind these claims, and interesting that in most cases the science did not appear to back them up.

The Agency has always been keen to ensure that people are not being misled by the various claims made about food. In fact, new European rules were introduced last year aimed at making it easier for people to understand what all these terms mean. In future, any claims made about the nutrition and health benefits of a food will have to be backed up by the science.

What really interests me about this is the way the debate quickly shifts into science versus belief, as if one is right and the other is wrong.  Surely we need both.  We can use scientific method to look at claims for superfoods and organic and make rational decisions about whether they are more nutritious or safer (not, according to the science) or we can simply choose to believe that certain foods are going to make us healthier.  As a Tottenham Hotspur supporter, I'm subject to the occasional irrational belief system (I still have a warm glow after Sunday's Carling Cup victory), but this doesn't prevent me using rational scientific thought.  But I do worry about the way in which science is used selectively by those with a commercial interest, and I do get annoyed when I hear parents being made to feel guilty if they aren't feeding their children organic, when conventional food is just as safe, and what really matters is eating a balanced diet with lots of fruit and vegetables, not whether they are organic or not.  

Of course it's not the job of scientists like me to tell people what to eat - and I wouldn't dream of doing so.  If superfoods is your thing, that's fine by me, but not if you make unfounded scientific claims about them.  

So the question I'm left with is how we reconcile science with belief in relation to what people eat?  I would be interested in your views.

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Posted by Fontwell (not verified) on 11/04/2008 - 12:43

The reason I buy organic food is not to do with how good the food might be for me but how good the farming methods required for UK organic status are for the land and wildlife in the area where the farming is done.

There was a period when this was the main reason a lot of people bought organic but for some reason it has become sidelined now.

Beliefs and Science

Posted by Pete A (not verified) on 10/03/2008 - 17:32

Looking at that particular program I was struck by one comment, which shows how even some scientists are convinced by dogma rather than science. Her comment about taking statins versus cholestoral lowering spread shows that the myth that high cholesterol is bad for you is widespread. In fact the only lipid that is a good guide to heart desease is tryglicerides - not overall cholesterol.
Also other modern research questions whether it is worth giving women statins at all. All it does is make the drug companies money!

Horizon

Posted by Di Johnson (not verified) on 07/03/2008 - 11:33

It always saddens me when people talk of "conventionally" produced food as opposed to the unconventional organic food production. Use of pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers is now the conventional method and frankly for those with an unadulterated palate the taste is different. My children identify non-organic milk and describe it as "tinny" tasting. Also I think it's worthy to consider that the obstetrician voicing her opinion was indeed voicing her opinion and is an obstetrician.
She may well not mind eating chemicals. With the mulitude of past problems from DDT (was safe now banned) 2 3 6-TBA dichlorprop, dikegulac, resmethin, tar acids and triforine, all now banned from home & garden chemicals I remain cautious with my choice of foodstuffs for myself & family.
Also reconciling science with belief in relation to what people eat the obstetrician's opinions were not consistent with many leading highly qualified food & health professionals. Therefore in my opinion until scientists are in general agreement the public can only make a decision that is comfortable for them. Sometimes this amounts to an intelligent guess.

Supporting consumer choice based on evidence

Posted by Pete Moss (not verified) on 04/03/2008 - 13:05

People form their beliefs from what they hear, and in the battle between evidence-based beliefs and marketing spin, it's the government's duty to ensure the message of rationality is heard.

For example, the baby food industry produces 'follow-on' formula milk aimed at parents of babies over 6 months. Yet the FSA website says that "follow-on milk isn't necessary at any stage." How many parents are aware of this?

organic V non-organic

Posted by Anonymous (not verified) on 03/03/2008 - 12:49

I think eating non-organic grains/beans/seeds/nuts/fruit/veg etc is better than eating none. There is evidence showing that the nutrient content of food even 50 yrs ago was far better e.g. the average orange these days contains only traces of vitamin c. Surely it is easy enough to also test organic food for nutrient content. If a food is lacking the presumably we must eat more to obtain the same amount. Food eaten 100 yrs ago (probably less) was predominatly organic (at least not processed/overly refined/showered with chemicals/flown 100's miles). We have to wait a life time (80-100 yrs) before we fully understand what effect eating a life time of non-organic, predominantly processed food has, so really nobody yet knows do they? in 100 years maybe scientist will realise that GM free, organic food is best but that will be too late for most of us!

Horizon programme - Organic Food

Posted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28/02/2008 - 22:39

Hi

If people believe Professor Regan, then the best of luck, I do not think they are many who think this now.
Is it possible that this programme was dated before it was even shown; even then, this programme would not have convinced many people? Evidence is now forth coming of the nutritional benefits of organic food. This does not seriously sit well with conventional type of food production and possibly the FSA. Perhaps the public common sense is more correct, than we are lead to believe.
With respect, I find your statement about conventional food and those with a commercial interst use science selectively a little hard, from type of bullet you have fired, can be easily fired back on other major food issue and with respect, this is not the place. Yes, I agree whole-heartily people should not be made guilty, if they are not eating organic food.
With respect how do you reconcile science with belief in relation to what people eat, that for me is easy I lost my confidence in the food industry many years ago, dare I say well before BSE. Over time this has proven to be correct a number of times, I made the point on the blog Defending food on Newsnight by stating ‘With respect, consider the following point raised where did we go wrong with our food if the food production at an industrial is not about nutritional.. ..etc
Kind regards